Posts by Sarah Smiles

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144,000 resurrected BEFORE Jesus rose?

by tula in

according to matthew 27:52-53.

(this occurred during the time when jesus was being crucified).

"and the memorial tombs were opened and many bodies of the holy ones that had fallen asleep were raised up, (and persons coming out from among the memorial tombs after his being raised up, entered into the holy city,) and they became visible to many people.".

Sarah Smiles

Tula! Keep up the good research and line of thinking! Who really knows, did the bodies raise up then go into the city? Perhaps, after an earthquake the bodies thrown out of their grave, and the people standing around who witnessed the event went back into the city and preached to the people what had happened to Jesus!

Everytime I read that verse, it really does appear that their was a resurrection of the holy ones! I use to think that the raised holy ones were proof that their would be a future resurrection! It's a brain teaser!

At least your looking at the scripture! good topic. Oh have you looked into some commentairies at the library or book store? Interesting how the NWT reads compared to the WT. LOL

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Fade Unsuccessful

by FadingELD in

i am new to this site but have been lurking for a while now.

i have not told my story yet because i am in the middle of a situation i had hoped to avoid.

my wife is still a jw in good standing, my two sons were dfd a year ago.

Sarah Smiles

The organization seems to not allow normal imperfections that your sons probably are going threw! As far as your wife finding a book written by Franz she should be happy it was not anything marital shattering! How dare her go to the elders that is silly and makes her untrustworthy, she married to you not the elders!

It is time for you to stand up! That book is not a book you should feel ashamed about or be punished for reading! and your wife should keep her mouth shut! You need to set an example for your children!

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An email from my Dad on Bible Chronology - Armegeddon's arrival

by eclipse in

i cannot provide any background info on my dad except to say that he is not an attender anymore, but is not apostate.. years ago, my dad showed me why he thought 1975 was wrong, and he gave me a date like 2011, 2012...back in 2004.. it actually made sense to me back then, and obve's posts reminded me of my dad's calculations..... only my dad's calculations were not based on addition or multiplying of random crazy numbers, .

but actually were logical assumptions based on the scriptures as he understood them.. here is his email to me...it might be lengthy, but it is easy to follow and understand.

(sorry for the large font, it was the font he used in the email.

Sarah Smiles

Do you get emails from you dad just to say hello and let do lunch? It all stems around preaching! Anyhow, preaching or not you must be nice to have his letters! As far a Psalms 110:1 I wonder why the JW think this is about Jehovah speaking to Jesus?

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Jehovah's Witnesses are not a judgemental religion

by VanillaMocha73 in

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=486093&in_page_id=1879&ico=femail&icl=topart.

what planet is she living on?

""when some people wonder how my faith sits with me having worked as a dancer or naomi being a model, i tell them that this is not a religion that judges people.

Sarah Smiles

LOL, even when one attends the meetings, one needs to watch who they are sitting with because they have to becarefull with sheeps in wolves clothing! Can you imagine that! watching other dedicated members who might not be sheep but wolves! Sounds like we were all taught to be judgemental! It is a doctrine to be judgemental of others and it also does not allow close trust worthy friendships to develope.

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An email from my Dad on Bible Chronology - Armegeddon's arrival

by eclipse in

i cannot provide any background info on my dad except to say that he is not an attender anymore, but is not apostate.. years ago, my dad showed me why he thought 1975 was wrong, and he gave me a date like 2011, 2012...back in 2004.. it actually made sense to me back then, and obve's posts reminded me of my dad's calculations..... only my dad's calculations were not based on addition or multiplying of random crazy numbers, .

but actually were logical assumptions based on the scriptures as he understood them.. here is his email to me...it might be lengthy, but it is easy to follow and understand.

(sorry for the large font, it was the font he used in the email.

Sarah Smiles

Yeap! your dad was a JDUB! One must stick with the faulty Facts! AS if it were a matter of fact! I liked his reasoning! but the best was no one knows the day or hour! We are so brained washed into looking into chronology! I wonder if the rest of his dates stemed from Russell's writings and he just did not know it! That would be from the Chart of the Ages. Measuring inch for a year! LOL. Which is not even bibical stuff just garbage! In th e 1900s, people did came up with these caculation to win money from a college institution who wanted people to submit something scientific to the college. Newton wrote a book stated that Solomon's bibical temple was perfect and therefore they were made from God's perfect numbers. Okay his reasoning was good! Everyone went to town to win this money! Russell and a few of the idiots prior to Russell submitted there papers! Let measure a real pyramid and state they are God's numbers. To think how we were all brained washed into these dates and did not know there background! history. I wanted to add Adam's creation was 4026 years? Did you see if it is in the Finished Mystery book? LOL they cant even figure out Noah's flood date so how could he figure out Adam's creation date! He probably took it from the JDUBS who borrowed it from Russell's writings. He measured the pyramids to get this date. A inch for a year! Yeap, big thing in the late 1900's.

Something else, in order to be a Freemason one must write a book and do a business in the world. Newton's book could have been part of his links to Freemason's so he could become a 33 or 3rd degree mason. That would make sense that later, people would want to copy the Alchemist! but it was a too strange so unlike Newton reasoning skills. Russell, Smyth, and Mizer were just NUTS! YOU can not measure a temple based on false gods to get divine truths and chronology of mans lifespan! It bull crap at it best! But one must have followers to succeed! So really does you dad know where he got his 4026 date? He did he take it as a matter of fact from the WTBTS! LOL. They sure did make me do this a lot when I was a kid in the 60s.

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May 1st WT-Question From Readers--by request!

by Atlantis in

request from researcher:.

do you have the link or scan to the may 1st watchtower qfr?

i tried a link for it but got an error message.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------.

Sarah Smiles

Well that is a change they do not know when the choosen of the anointed ended! page 2.Well then why do they makes such a big issue about people partaking at the memorial? Now, that is a new thought! because the last time I went to memorial they made it clear that they already knew who the 144,000 are and probably there were not any new partakers at our memorial! Everyone laughed and no one partook!

OK that is it for me ranting! I always like the question from the readers.

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May 1st WT-Question From Readers--by request!

by Atlantis in

request from researcher:.

do you have the link or scan to the may 1st watchtower qfr?

i tried a link for it but got an error message.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------.

Sarah Smiles

Thanks Atlantis for sharing! Wow here we go again! First of all there is no proof that the disciples received their inheritance to a heavenly life on 33 C.E.

That is one big lie right off the get go and they know it! First of all YOU would need to know when Christ was born? Do you have a WT on that topic? YOU would need to know when Herod the Great died? Do you have a WT on about Herod the Great's death? Then they would have to know when Christ was baptized! Do you have a WT on that date? OH caculate his resurrection and days prior to his ascending up into heavens! Bingo! Can you come up with the WT Atalantis?

Well if they lie in the first paragraph then the rest is fiction!

They are so stupid! just to answer that question given their history!

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New understanding of generation: Another repeat of 1914

by truthseeker in

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no, this is not another thread on who said what at the annual meeting but.... i had a thought that what the gb are doing is resurrecting the old 1914 doctrine.

well, even though they left the door open for more anointed to join, the average age of the remnant must be in the 80s.. .

what's the difference between this understanding and the 1914 generation?

Sarah Smiles

Hmm, interesting thought! Age is about right, in there 80s if they were at the age of understanding 14 years of age added to 1914. Urgency, well that makes sense for dysfunctional people sitting around focusing on the end to come and worrying about family members not being in the truth! when they should be enjoying life! Oh well let the dead worry about dead things. In reality that end did come in 70 A.D.

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Annual Bethel Meeting

by indahsempurna in

my parents just came back from the annual bethel meeting in brooklyn.

they said only 3 of the gb were there.

they felt the need to inform me of everything even though i was in a blur watching tv.

Sarah Smiles

They have been saying that since the 60s! Cleansing before the end comes! Always represents Jehovah's people are not really Jehovahs people and so they leave. It s like becareful with sheeps in wolves clothing, they use to say it could be someone sitting next to you. Also, the new light about some 144,000 will make it through Arm, they been saying that too. It's nothing new!

Yeah! that term apostate is a hard one! Even the dictionary meaning I think is different than the bible. I think the bible is someone who goes against Christ, instead of someone who leaves their congregations. Prior to Jehovah Witness, I wonder what religion did your parents belong? If they belong to another religion that would make them an apostate! Who chooses who is an apostate? man or Jesus? I think Jesus! It really is wrong to MARK people with this name! That like calling someone the antichrist! Anyhow, I bet it was a cuss word in Paul's time. I resent the misuse of this word from the WTBTS and their followers. Here, I do not care. LOL

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Let us PREY

by TopHat in

scandal brews at oral roberts universityby justin juozapavicius,apposted: 2007-10-06 22:35:48filed under: law news, nation newstulsa, okla. (oct. 6) - twenty years ago, televangelist oral roberts said he was reading a spy novel when god appeared to him and told him to raise $8 million for roberts' university, or else he would be "called home.

photo gallery: trouble on campusrobert s. cross, the tulsa world / aprichard roberts, seen in 2004, is the son of televangelist oral roberts and president of the university that bears his father's name.

he's denied allegations of misconduct detailed in a lawsuit filed by three ex-professors.. 1 of 6now, his son, oral roberts university president richard roberts, says god is speaking again, telling him to deny lurid allegations in a lawsuit that threatens to engulf this 44-year-old bible belt college in scandal.

Sarah Smiles

I seemed to like John Hagee sermons on t.v. Revelation but what connection does he have with O.R.?